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even as boston struggles to piece it's a back together, canadian police announced they have foiled an al-qaeda terror plot in toronto. at this time there is no evidence that it was connected to boston. this morning funerals were held for two of the victims. >> 29-year-old krystle campbell, a restaurant manager who was at the marathon, cheering on her boyfriend. friends describe her as have kind heart and wry sense of humor, and there was a funeral for lingzi lu, a chinese citizen who had just written her final exams link. an eight year old boy martin richard was killed as was a police officer. today a thousand mourners turned out to pay their respect. the west borough baptist church has threatened to picket the funerals because gay marriage is legal in massachusetts. but 200 teamsters came out to protect the mourners and the protesters were nowhere to be seen. there was a moment of silence for the victims, the city of boston, white house, house, senate and new york stock exchange all stopped pay their respect. dzhokhar tsarnaev is at boston's hospital. he is on vaent late for and handcuffed to
even as boston struggles to piece it's a back together, canadian police announced they have foiled an al-qaeda terror plot in toronto. at this time there is no evidence that it was connected to boston. this morning funerals were held for two of the victims. >> 29-year-old krystle campbell, a restaurant manager who was at the marathon, cheering on her boyfriend. friends describe her as have kind heart and wry sense of humor, and there was a funeral for lingzi lu, a chinese citizen who had...
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this would be the al qaeda in the caucasus branch of al qaeda. we even know that the number two was there in 1997. there are several groups in chechnya and dagestan that have been deemed terrorists organizations by the united states and there are laws and insurgencies in those countries in those republics that resulted in so many bad attacks on russia we should have a certain amount of sympathy for what russia has gone through as a result of al qaeda's orientated attacks by the islamic extremists groups. >> it does seem that like jose padilla there might have been anger there about chechnya and using that as a rationale for joining jihady movements. having said that. one of the things that gets pointed out continuously is that if you are chechen, your beef is with russia and not the united states. >> yes but to a point. remember, chris, it's not just the chechnya conflict that was involved here. dagestan is really the far more important place to look. let's keep chechnya to the side. it's dagestan where he went. he probably was not just visiting
this would be the al qaeda in the caucasus branch of al qaeda. we even know that the number two was there in 1997. there are several groups in chechnya and dagestan that have been deemed terrorists organizations by the united states and there are laws and insurgencies in those countries in those republics that resulted in so many bad attacks on russia we should have a certain amount of sympathy for what russia has gone through as a result of al qaeda's orientated attacks by the islamic...
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>> the islamic world and certainly not to al-qaeda in terms of their world, it doesn't have any iconic significance. >> i'm sure what was going through the president's mind is we don't know who was doing it. was it tax day? you just don't know. so i think his attitude is lets not put any inference into it, let's make clear we will get the people responsible. >> anything you say could prejudge. >> and have reverberations all over the world. >> for those who hate america and new its history, monday had significant meaning. in hawaii monday was a holiday, patriots day's commemorating the first shots fired in the revolution. >> the real patriots day is april 19th. that's the day that counts for people on the extreme right in the united states. as it happens, massachusetts celebrates patriots day on the third monday of the month. >> but about international terrorists, there is this fact. april has seen it's share of random violence, aimed at the innocent and vulnerable in public places. >> all right. were there any public apologize, any corrections issued? of course not. joining me now with
>> the islamic world and certainly not to al-qaeda in terms of their world, it doesn't have any iconic significance. >> i'm sure what was going through the president's mind is we don't know who was doing it. was it tax day? you just don't know. so i think his attitude is lets not put any inference into it, let's make clear we will get the people responsible. >> anything you say could prejudge. >> and have reverberations all over the world. >> for those who hate...
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and al qaeda has talked about that. but it's also a widely available bomb-making instructions on the internet. and it's been used by nonal qaeda groups, as well. i certainly don't want to rule out an al qaeda-inspired plot here. i just don't think that it points enough in that direction that we should rule out the other possibilities of some sort of domestic terrorism. >> mr. forest, the boston police have labeled this the most complex crime boston has ever had. why is that? how do you read that? what are they telling us? >> well, the scene is simply massive, a 12 block square area with cars. so it's taking them a long time to collect the data they need, the proverbial dots so they can look at all of those dots, all of that video, all of the physical evidence, all of the intelligence reporting, and start to slowly piece that together. it's an enormous task which is still going to take really days, not just hours. >> mr. lighter, can i just come back to this finish line? there was a grandstand. you had to have identifica
and al qaeda has talked about that. but it's also a widely available bomb-making instructions on the internet. and it's been used by nonal qaeda groups, as well. i certainly don't want to rule out an al qaeda-inspired plot here. i just don't think that it points enough in that direction that we should rule out the other possibilities of some sort of domestic terrorism. >> mr. forest, the boston police have labeled this the most complex crime boston has ever had. why is that? how do you...
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qaeda groups. was he meeting with islamic terrorists? i don't see how you can say there's no broader plot. i pray there wasn't but we don't know yet in and for the administration to say this is open and shut, just these two guys, let's move along, to me it fits a pattern we saw in benghazi and continues today. nell neil we -- >> neil: we know the fbi was alerted to tamerlan and his trips. gone through everything, his associations, everything about the guy, and they gave him the clean bill of health. they couldn't we d anything. we do know enough that about. we also know there might have been other requests for information on the younger brother. but there was enough outside interest expressed abroad to at least look at one of these suspects here that -- it does stretch credulity to wonder if it was left to just these guys? >> by the way, let's not forget, there were additional arrests in connection with this case over the weekend in the boston area. there will five additional arrests connected to t
qaeda groups. was he meeting with islamic terrorists? i don't see how you can say there's no broader plot. i pray there wasn't but we don't know yet in and for the administration to say this is open and shut, just these two guys, let's move along, to me it fits a pattern we saw in benghazi and continues today. nell neil we -- >> neil: we know the fbi was alerted to tamerlan and his trips. gone through everything, his associations, everything about the guy, and they gave him the clean bill...
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surrounded the student that saudi arabia and al-qaeda. >> you know what's very interesting in this, the saudi national you know, the poor young guys splashed on the front payment in the "new york post," a lot of right wing chatter about a missing brown university student, might have been involved in this. and authorities said absolutely not. look, take a step back. there was an absolute burning desire to find a mideastern guy to be the suspect. and the "new york post" and other conservative outlets like glenn beck, they proved that they'll just make it up. it was such a burning desire to have the story fit the their at this that they wanted. that they were willing and they have the media tools to just start make stuff up and creating their own reality and creating their own parallel universe. where hey, it is a saudi. guess what. we decided it is a saudi. so that's the story we're going to go with because that's the story we want. if you just take a couple of seconds, imagine, you know, thank god glenn beck wasn't around on 9-11. thank god the fox news of today wasn't around on 9-11. th
surrounded the student that saudi arabia and al-qaeda. >> you know what's very interesting in this, the saudi national you know, the poor young guys splashed on the front payment in the "new york post," a lot of right wing chatter about a missing brown university student, might have been involved in this. and authorities said absolutely not. look, take a step back. there was an absolute burning desire to find a mideastern guy to be the suspect. and the "new york post"...
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learning how to make bombs from an online magazine published by al qaeda. meanwhile, we're hearing more from the suspect's family members. today the lawyer for the wife of tamerlan tsarnaev says the bombing caused her and her family extreme distress and she was stunned to learn of her husband's alleged involvement. >> the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. >> and in dagestan, the suspect's mother is adamant that her sons are innocent. >> what happened is a terrible thing, but i know that my kids have nothing to do with this. i know it. i am mother. >> joining us now from boston is nbc news national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. and frank silufo, director of the homeland security policy institute at george washington university. good afternoon, to both of you. mike, as the investigations continue both here and oversea, we understand that investigators are confident these brothers acted alone. even as their family members express utter bafflement. what are we learning about the larger
learning how to make bombs from an online magazine published by al qaeda. meanwhile, we're hearing more from the suspect's family members. today the lawyer for the wife of tamerlan tsarnaev says the bombing caused her and her family extreme distress and she was stunned to learn of her husband's alleged involvement. >> the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. >> and in dagestan, the suspect's mother is adamant that her sons...
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al qaeda and an islamic jihadist extended the battlefield to the united states. in this war we're in, that's what makes it unique and different. is that the battlefield has extended to the united states. therefore, to me, a soldier in that war or an enemy combatant in that war is, in fact, an enemy combatant, not just an ordinary criminal if he's captured here, even if he's captured here in the united states. again i want to emphasize he would be getting a civilian trial and none of the evidence that's brought out in this interrogation could be used against him. it's solely for the purpose of intelligence. >> this issue of radicalization in the islamic community, does this mean anybody with radical views should be viewed as an enemy combatant as a threat? because there seems to be a fine line here. so he got radicalized. the brother got radicalized. but if there's no connection to some sort of organized terrorist organization, do you treat them as an enemy combatant and do you worry that then suddenly we're going to treat any potential radical, somebody who's got
al qaeda and an islamic jihadist extended the battlefield to the united states. in this war we're in, that's what makes it unique and different. is that the battlefield has extended to the united states. therefore, to me, a soldier in that war or an enemy combatant in that war is, in fact, an enemy combatant, not just an ordinary criminal if he's captured here, even if he's captured here in the united states. again i want to emphasize he would be getting a civilian trial and none of the...
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qaeda, were substantially, you know, substantially supported by al qaeda. and so, coming up with the legal justification to label them enemy combatants, it's a real stretch. >> we've got some sound from senator chuck schumer this morning. i want to play this sound and let's talk about it on the other side. take a listen. >> there's plenty of evidence. they don't need his confession to get him in a trial. so i don't think we have to cross the line and say he should be an enemy combatant, which could be challenged in court. >> goldie, what's even behind this? what's behind this idea that he should be labeled? >> i don't know what's behind it, but i do know that, you know, trying to label this young man as an enemy combatant is akin to trying to hop across the pacific ocean on a pogo stick. it just doesn't mesh. at the end of the day, he is an american citizen. this american land is not a battlefield at this time. there is nothing to support that. and so this young man deserves a trial in a criminal court, in this country. he cannot be tried in a military trib
qaeda, were substantially, you know, substantially supported by al qaeda. and so, coming up with the legal justification to label them enemy combatants, it's a real stretch. >> we've got some sound from senator chuck schumer this morning. i want to play this sound and let's talk about it on the other side. take a listen. >> there's plenty of evidence. they don't need his confession to get him in a trial. so i don't think we have to cross the line and say he should be an enemy...
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the summer of 2006, a group of terrorists with links to al-qaeda planned to board a bunch of different planes at heathrow in london. to be flying from there to the united states and the way these guys were going to bomb the planes was by bringing soda bottles on board those planes that looked like they contained just soda or water, but in fact, they contained hydrogen peroxide and the other components needed to make bombs. the heathrow guys got caught before they did it, but it is now thanks to them that we have to buy humiliatingly tiny toiletries like this hair goo, right? it's not just security in this case. it's for a reason. hydrogen based bombs. the london bombings of 2005, those were al-qaeda linked terrorists and those were hydrogen peroxide based bombs. those killed 52 people. four years later, there was an american copy cat. in 2009, a guy tried to buy a bunch of hydrogen peroxide from beauty stores near aurora, colorado. it led to the arrest of this guy. he was going to do it in new york instead. on the subway. again, his plan was hydrogen peroxide. they're associated with d
the summer of 2006, a group of terrorists with links to al-qaeda planned to board a bunch of different planes at heathrow in london. to be flying from there to the united states and the way these guys were going to bomb the planes was by bringing soda bottles on board those planes that looked like they contained just soda or water, but in fact, they contained hydrogen peroxide and the other components needed to make bombs. the heathrow guys got caught before they did it, but it is now thanks to...
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as i understand at the moment investigators believe that, in fact, this is not an al qaeda operation. it's not clear how these guys became radicalize bud they don't seem to think that they have any significant overseas connections and they don't seem to think, as i think you quoted somebody there earlier, that they have any accomplices in the united states. so from the sounds of things they're a couple of what they call in the trade "loan wolves" who dreamt this all up on their own. who probably radicalized themselves perhaps over internet who may have even gotten the internet and such peopleecsethe they don't do the kinds of things that would attract the attention of intelligence agencies they're very hard to spot in advance. >> brown: bruce hoffman, what do you think they should be looking at now? what is the interesting part here? >> first and foremost the authorities will be combing through the computers to find out if they were in contact with anyone either in the united statesor overseas. if they were downloading for instance the sermons of anwar al-awlaki who's one of the decea
as i understand at the moment investigators believe that, in fact, this is not an al qaeda operation. it's not clear how these guys became radicalize bud they don't seem to think that they have any significant overseas connections and they don't seem to think, as i think you quoted somebody there earlier, that they have any accomplices in the united states. so from the sounds of things they're a couple of what they call in the trade "loan wolves" who dreamt this all up on their own....
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as many as there were which is tragic it didn't kill as many as al-qaeda has killed in the past. remember this was the first successful bombing since 9/11. all other previous terrorist attacks there have been 95 attempted attacks were stopped by the f.b.i. except for three and those three occurred with shooting attacks so we knew the perpetrator immediately. this was the first successful bombing done since 9/11. >> is there anything in here that tells you that this was domestic related? >> well, i mean you kcan go bot ways on it. obviously you know tax day may be a protest but if tax day and you were protesting the government you would want to hit a government facility. my leaning is that considering the person of interest who they picked up and not necessarily guilty i want to add is of foreign origin that this looks like it's leaning toward that direction. >> do you have a sense of how these bombs were coordinated? we're hearing that there were the number floats but there were multiple other unexploded devices that were found? two that we know exploded. you know this is just fr
as many as there were which is tragic it didn't kill as many as al-qaeda has killed in the past. remember this was the first successful bombing since 9/11. all other previous terrorist attacks there have been 95 attempted attacks were stopped by the f.b.i. except for three and those three occurred with shooting attacks so we knew the perpetrator immediately. this was the first successful bombing done since 9/11. >> is there anything in here that tells you that this was domestic related?...
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i agree with the analysis that being part of al qaeda creates an eligibility. i don't think being part of general atre treahatred of the states is nearly enough. where i slightly disagree, there's a supreme court decision, the one you were referring to, chris, involving the nazis. one of whom was a u.s. citizen. the crimes werer. traded traited to be for u.s. soil. bottom line, this is not a case for enemy combatants, and there so many horrible crimes committed. if we start throwing the constitution out, we're going to lose the real war for our values. >> let's talk about the issue a lot of people have been talking about. not everybody, but some. miranda rights. we've watched enough detective shows no know, police shows, they give miranda rights almost like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. it's done. why do you think that's an issue? now we just got the word as we went on the air tonight the defendant here, the suspect, i guess he's a defendant now, has been given his miranda rights. >> this is truly something of an urban legend. people like to watch shows where a
i agree with the analysis that being part of al qaeda creates an eligibility. i don't think being part of general atre treahatred of the states is nearly enough. where i slightly disagree, there's a supreme court decision, the one you were referring to, chris, involving the nazis. one of whom was a u.s. citizen. the crimes werer. traded traited to be for u.s. soil. bottom line, this is not a case for enemy combatants, and there so many horrible crimes committed. if we start throwing the...
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al qaeda's, you know, leadership has been significantly degraded. so what you have is these sort of al qaeda inspired events happening all over. >> richard haas -- >> you say something about what we've learned in new york about how we reduce the chances that young men get radicalized, get inspired, or if they do how do we get the community leadership to turn them in, to basically work with you rather than shield them? >> we have an awful lot of community support here. i think it's just not logical to think that the community is going to know about young men becoming radicalized. they know that they're being watched. they know they're being watched by their own community. so what we see is very, very small groups or individuals who are -- who are doing this. they're not advertising it. now, you know, in retrospect you can say, well, he started to act strangely or he did a series of things. but prior to an event happening, it's very difficult to identify. but in terms of community support, we think we have significant community support. from -- certai
al qaeda's, you know, leadership has been significantly degraded. so what you have is these sort of al qaeda inspired events happening all over. >> richard haas -- >> you say something about what we've learned in new york about how we reduce the chances that young men get radicalized, get inspired, or if they do how do we get the community leadership to turn them in, to basically work with you rather than shield them? >> we have an awful lot of community support here. i think...
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he read an online publication proud by al-qaeda. they were not connected to any large -- that this was -- they're calling self-radicalized from the web site, from perhaps mischa. what we've discussed earlier. lots more stuff coming out. fascinating details. 29 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current. this show is about analyzing criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. staying in tough with everything that is going on politically and putting my
he read an online publication proud by al-qaeda. they were not connected to any large -- that this was -- they're calling self-radicalized from the web site, from perhaps mischa. what we've discussed earlier. lots more stuff coming out. fascinating details. 29 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning...
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but at least -- and plus, add to that that no al qaeda groups or no al qaeda-affiliated groups or any international terrorist groups have claimed credit for this bombing which is a bit odd if they were. because generally the whole purpose is to claim the credit and after most of the major terrorists attacks by al qaeda, there was a claim of responsibility. so, look, none of this is positive at this point, but at least so far, and we're early, the indicators do seem to match up that this is looking like a case of self-radicalization. that these brothers were on the internet, got inspired by reading "inspire" and other al qaeda and jihadi videos. there's also this prophet -- not prophet, this preacher, faez mohamed who's an awlaki type guy. a preacher who tamerlan tsarnaev in his youtube account posts videos from, so he may have played a role in inspiring these, inspiring them or radicalizing them. but as i said, chris, we're a long way from finishing this investigation. >> so just to use your instincts as an investigative reporter, and you're a good one, the fact he said all this, he d
but at least -- and plus, add to that that no al qaeda groups or no al qaeda-affiliated groups or any international terrorist groups have claimed credit for this bombing which is a bit odd if they were. because generally the whole purpose is to claim the credit and after most of the major terrorists attacks by al qaeda, there was a claim of responsibility. so, look, none of this is positive at this point, but at least so far, and we're early, the indicators do seem to match up that this is...
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there was no immediate claim of responsibility, but such attacks are often a trademark of al- qaeda's iraqi wing. a major sell-off hit wall street today. stocks plunged after china reported its economic growth slowed in the first quarter, and commodity prices took a hit. the dow jones industrial average lost nearly 266 points to close at 14,599. the nasdaq fell 78 points to close at 3216. there was relative quiet out of north korea today, as the communist state celebrated the birthday of its founder with a flower festival. celebrations were focused in pyongyang, and residents dressed in their finest clothing to lay flowers before statues of former north korean leaders. a day earlier, north korea rejected the south's offer of dialogue, calling it a "crafty trick." a federal judge in washington has refused to intervene in a detainee hunger strike at guantanamo bay, cuba. he ruled today that federal law bars judicial review of enemy combatant claims of mistreatment. a yemeni prisoner, musaab al- madhwani, had said he and other hunger strikers are denied drinking water and medical care an
there was no immediate claim of responsibility, but such attacks are often a trademark of al- qaeda's iraqi wing. a major sell-off hit wall street today. stocks plunged after china reported its economic growth slowed in the first quarter, and commodity prices took a hit. the dow jones industrial average lost nearly 266 points to close at 14,599. the nasdaq fell 78 points to close at 3216. there was relative quiet out of north korea today, as the communist state celebrated the birthday of its...
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we know that he actually posted pro al qaeda or at least pro radical islam. what it seems to be -- and again this is very early days in the investigation and so, you know, they keep saying that in the early days of the investigation, you're almost always wrong when you jump to conclusions. but in these early days of the investigation it appears that the older brother had a tremendous amount or held great sway over the younger brother. and that the younger brother didn't seem to have any outward signs of this sort of radical islamic belief but followed in the footsteps of his older brother. so that's what investigators are going to try to find out when they finally get to talk to him in the hospital. as you mentioned in your piece, they did end up mirandaizing him, reading him his rights. there was some question as to whether or not they would use something called the public safety exception which basically says you don't have to read someone their miranda rights if you believe that the public safety is in danger. in other words, you know, if you thought that.
we know that he actually posted pro al qaeda or at least pro radical islam. what it seems to be -- and again this is very early days in the investigation and so, you know, they keep saying that in the early days of the investigation, you're almost always wrong when you jump to conclusions. but in these early days of the investigation it appears that the older brother had a tremendous amount or held great sway over the younger brother. and that the younger brother didn't seem to have any outward...
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are they connected to al-qaeda? aren't they connected to al-qaeda? those are all questions that have to be answered. the way you try a citizen in a military court is you basically say that he has given up his citizenship by joining the enemy army. he's no longer a citizen of the united states. >> that's the argument they made in the drone attack. the legalization if you're an american and overseas and participating -- >> the obama administration has used this legal argument to justify their drone attacks. it's not unfamiliar to them. >> about a year ago or so, the nypd came under fire for some listening in this -- using surveillance techniques on certain groups. >> in new jersey. >> in new jersey. >> right. >> there was a thing going back and forth between new york, new jersey, whether they were allowed to do this or not. with all this going on, aren't we making the case for more of that rather than less of that? >> yeah, we have to do more of it. it's very uncomfortable. it's very -- none of us want to give up any of our privacy, understandable. the
are they connected to al-qaeda? aren't they connected to al-qaeda? those are all questions that have to be answered. the way you try a citizen in a military court is you basically say that he has given up his citizenship by joining the enemy army. he's no longer a citizen of the united states. >> that's the argument they made in the drone attack. the legalization if you're an american and overseas and participating -- >> the obama administration has used this legal argument to...
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could it have been a military explosive or something al-qaeda has used? as they get into it they will find that out. >> based on these explosions the type of ieds you're describing do you think the break will come from the carnage or human intelligence? >> no, i think it will come from the evidence collected on the ground. in part from the carnage. what will be interesting is to see how this exchange of information goes between federal and local officials. because this happened in boston and it didn't happen in a federal facility boston police and massachusetts state police actually have the lead on this investigation. now in terms of having all of the technology and the manpower and woman power necessary to put all the information together that's something the f.b.i. can do well. unfortunately in the past in these investigations federal law enforcement use it as a one way street. they'll take information from the locals and they won't share anything. from watching the press conference i think they're will be the kind of sharing back and forth that needs
could it have been a military explosive or something al-qaeda has used? as they get into it they will find that out. >> based on these explosions the type of ieds you're describing do you think the break will come from the carnage or human intelligence? >> no, i think it will come from the evidence collected on the ground. in part from the carnage. what will be interesting is to see how this exchange of information goes between federal and local officials. because this happened in...
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this background checks for al qaeda members, background checks for violent offenders, it will pass. thank you, joe manchin. we greatly appreciate it. >> joining us from capitol hill republican senator from arizona, senator john mccain. senator, you and i don't always agree on everything. but i could hug you this morning. and democratic senator from new york. >> i wish i was there. >> and democrat senator from new york, chuck shumchumer. >> where is my hug? >> you always get one from me. i'm serious. senator mccain what made you decide to vote yes? >> well, i just thought that the bill was appropriate, that t the -- i've always been opposed to to the gun show loophole so i thought it was the right thing to do. >> can i ask you, senator mccain? this vote is probably going to come up again. joe manchin will be working democrats. you certainly have a lot of influence over kelly ayotte in new hampshire. would you encourage her if she could be the deciding vote to support background checks? >> i've never done that in the years i've been here. i talk to kelly. i talk to many of my other co
this background checks for al qaeda members, background checks for violent offenders, it will pass. thank you, joe manchin. we greatly appreciate it. >> joining us from capitol hill republican senator from arizona, senator john mccain. senator, you and i don't always agree on everything. but i could hug you this morning. and democratic senator from new york. >> i wish i was there. >> and democrat senator from new york, chuck shumchumer. >> where is my hug? >> you...
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these are al qaeda training camps. guest: there is no evidence that al qaeda has training camps on the mexico side of the border. economy depends on exporting to the united states. if there was evidence the mexican government was tolerating al qaeda trading, it would be shut down so fast. that is misinformation. there is a problem with criminal groups.n afrth nion is misinformation. host: let's talk about how they would increase the protections on the border. guest: border security is a big part of this legistion. evidencewants to see of sufficient progress. the bill has set some interesting benchmarks. arizona, san diego, rio grande sector in texas. the border patrol is either arresting returning back to mexico 90% of those who tried to enter. we're not that far from it. .eople don't understand arrests on bemade a year. that number is down to a trickle now. the people trying to enter are getting arrested or turning back and going back to mexico. still a lot that needs to be done. wey different from where were a decade
these are al qaeda training camps. guest: there is no evidence that al qaeda has training camps on the mexico side of the border. economy depends on exporting to the united states. if there was evidence the mexican government was tolerating al qaeda trading, it would be shut down so fast. that is misinformation. there is a problem with criminal groups.n afrth nion is misinformation. host: let's talk about how they would increase the protections on the border. guest: border security is a big...
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these are basically the methods of al-qaeda. all i need is one indicator, the identity of a perpetrator, a video, a press release. otherwise this could also be used by other type of terrorists. i would feel that this is how al-qaeda operates, but i don't have that one determining element that would be the i.d. of that person. >> brian: this would be an enormous success for them had they pulled this off, had they been behind this. how do they view what happened so far? >> well, even if we don't know who that is, if it's domestic or international, you already have sources on-line in the middle east by jihaddists who are very happy that something bad happened to the united states. if indeed we go the route of al-qaeda or their allies, that would show us what their intentions are for the future. it's not really linked to boston. it could be any american city. that is the model that we have in front of our eyes, if indeed it is that route. >> brian: so we have this saudi citizen, a person of interest, we're questioning him and have a
these are basically the methods of al-qaeda. all i need is one indicator, the identity of a perpetrator, a video, a press release. otherwise this could also be used by other type of terrorists. i would feel that this is how al-qaeda operates, but i don't have that one determining element that would be the i.d. of that person. >> brian: this would be an enormous success for them had they pulled this off, had they been behind this. how do they view what happened so far? >> well, even...
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behind that, you get groups -- such as al qaeda. if you look at 84 attacks coming out of those groups compared to four from al qaeda, how do you compare? a lot of terrorism and the united states is born and raised here. based on your background in this, are there any parallels to what happened in the oklahoma , to what we potentially could see with the ,9-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev who is about to be charged probably later this week? guest: it certainly well within the cards. if he is convicted, what will be the fifth largest act of terrorism in the united states, then went on to be involved in the murder of another law enforcement official, and then went on to throw improvised explosive devices out of two cars, one of which was a carjacked vehicle. is an extraordinary example of violence. the pentagon evidence -- depending on evidence, which i certainly have no inside knowledge of, this has the potential to go to trial. host: one day after the bombings took place, the other was killed in that shooting in watertown, massachusetts, t
behind that, you get groups -- such as al qaeda. if you look at 84 attacks coming out of those groups compared to four from al qaeda, how do you compare? a lot of terrorism and the united states is born and raised here. based on your background in this, are there any parallels to what happened in the oklahoma , to what we potentially could see with the ,9-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev who is about to be charged probably later this week? guest: it certainly well within the cards. if he is...
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qaeda. >> reporter: no one has come forward to claim responsibility. the fbi now taking the lead calling this a potential terrorism investigation. >> one of the problems with this, people will jump to conclusions. i was around doing commentary on the 1996 bombing in the olympic park. at that point richard jewel was fingered immediately as a suspect. >> reporter: a suspect who ended up not being guilty. know the name erik robert rudolph? he's serving life in prison for it. >> they'll be evaluating the devices they recover. >> reporter: we'll know more in the hours and days to come. >> could very well be that lone wolf sleeper didn't let a lot out, maybe a handful of individuals who may be involved are perpetrators. we don't know. >> reporter: what we do know is that without an ounce of doubt what was supposed to be the ultimate triumph in human ability and perseverance ended up the ultimate low in dispickability and cowardness. >> it's highly likely within 24 hours somebody at some level is going to know, have a pretty good idea who carried this out. we
qaeda. >> reporter: no one has come forward to claim responsibility. the fbi now taking the lead calling this a potential terrorism investigation. >> one of the problems with this, people will jump to conclusions. i was around doing commentary on the 1996 bombing in the olympic park. at that point richard jewel was fingered immediately as a suspect. >> reporter: a suspect who ended up not being guilty. know the name erik robert rudolph? he's serving life in prison for it....
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which is somewhat connected to, say, al qaeda. how do you uncover a mindset that's pick up over the internet? how do you find the danger in the individual lone wolf? >> i think we can go in that regard. but i'm not going to not address another issue. a few minutes -- it was actually a short period of time after the bombing, my phone rang. and it was the white house staff calling me, saying as they did other boston officials, the full assets of the united states of america are there to help you. you just came from boston, chris. this is not a democratic/republican issue. to bring the president into this is really -- this isn't the right time to do it. >> i know. >> it's really disingenuous. you know, back to your question, we will learn a lot. it's been a progression. we have made such progress in the last ten years. i had a field hearing in homeland with my chair, mr. mccaul, in boston looking at where we've been in the last ten years. it's one of the best centers, anti-terrorist centers in the country. they do their job every day
which is somewhat connected to, say, al qaeda. how do you uncover a mindset that's pick up over the internet? how do you find the danger in the individual lone wolf? >> i think we can go in that regard. but i'm not going to not address another issue. a few minutes -- it was actually a short period of time after the bombing, my phone rang. and it was the white house staff calling me, saying as they did other boston officials, the full assets of the united states of america are there to...
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is this something that is a domestic terrorist, or is it somebody that is al-qaeda, the aqap, looking to get some type of retribution as a result of the drone strikes? no one knows. but we have to fight back. guilty back by standing tall, standing aces americans first and uniting, as we do when we have tragedies like this, go to work and do everything we have to do and then hold them accountable. >> i'm looking at the scene and that was their intention. that's always the goal of these gut less, cowardly terrorists. but i have to tell you something, even with the two waves that occurred here, you still have military, police, fire, medics, just civilians. they knew there was a potential of another explosion, and you saw the best in humanity, racing to help those people and in some cases saving their lives. senator, thank you for your time tonight. i always wish under better circumstances. our thoughts and prayers are with the people of boston tonight. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> all right. we will take a very short break. we are going to come back. we will continue following a
is this something that is a domestic terrorist, or is it somebody that is al-qaeda, the aqap, looking to get some type of retribution as a result of the drone strikes? no one knows. but we have to fight back. guilty back by standing tall, standing aces americans first and uniting, as we do when we have tragedies like this, go to work and do everything we have to do and then hold them accountable. >> i'm looking at the scene and that was their intention. that's always the goal of these gut...
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and al qaeda militants and yemen and elsewhere. and really at the heart of it is the fact that one of obama's enduring legacies when it comes to foreign policy, he has solidified assassination as an essential component of policy. >> they can do it in the shadows, as you pointed out. in the book, i would say there hasn't been a lot of public resistance aside from people like you and others in the press. how have they done this without facing much resistance? publicly or inside the government from people who should be stepping up and saying, wait a minute, we can't kill u.s. citizens without due process? >> right, i think there's no question that if john mccain had won the election in 2008 or mitt romney had won it in 2012 that liberals would be screaming about this stuff and saying, you know, that -- there would be this thing, war crimes, we should do impeachment and the reality is that i think a lot of people -- and i think this is sincere. a lot of people so fed up with the iraq war, perceived as the sort of crimes of the bush adm
and al qaeda militants and yemen and elsewhere. and really at the heart of it is the fact that one of obama's enduring legacies when it comes to foreign policy, he has solidified assassination as an essential component of policy. >> they can do it in the shadows, as you pointed out. in the book, i would say there hasn't been a lot of public resistance aside from people like you and others in the press. how have they done this without facing much resistance? publicly or inside the...
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it's been used by al qaeda, but it's also been advertised in domestic extremist web sites. what is important the components could potentially be traced back to reports of a circuit board being included. something like that might be relatively distinctive and that could be a key piece for the fbi to trace back. where that came from, how it was purchased and how ultimately it got in that bomb. you combine that with video and photos we are talking about and that is where you see this start. you hope to break wider open. >> guys, the patriots day on monday started with the red sox game at 11:00 in the morning. they came back and they won in walkoff fashion. obviously, things turned terrible from there. the red sox were back on the field in cleveland last night. a moment of silence at progressive field there before the indians hosted the red sox. it was the sox first game since the marathon attacks. the game mike napoli hit a three-run double that helped the red sox win the game and hanging in the dugout a jersey with the word "boston strong." and number 617 for the zip code whe
it's been used by al qaeda, but it's also been advertised in domestic extremist web sites. what is important the components could potentially be traced back to reports of a circuit board being included. something like that might be relatively distinctive and that could be a key piece for the fbi to trace back. where that came from, how it was purchased and how ultimately it got in that bomb. you combine that with video and photos we are talking about and that is where you see this start. you...
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enemy combatants, american to associate with al qaeda today would either be killed with a overseas, or if they are arrested here in the united states, and taken directly to federal court where they would belong and have all the constitutional rights anyone else requested. pedia has a long history. remember, prior legal precedents allow for and still allows for arguably the commander in chief to detain an american citizen and hold them without charge for a period of time and declare them to be an enemy combatants. there is no desire on behalf of this administration to do that for the second half of the bush administration as well. host: democrat. please go ahead. caller: a couple questions. can you tell us how many terrorists have been tried by the military and put into prison, and how many have been tried in the united states in the federal court system inside the united states they have been tried and put into prison for life. why is it so much better to hold these people up in cuba? we are afraid to let them appear in court in the united states for what they will tell the people of t
enemy combatants, american to associate with al qaeda today would either be killed with a overseas, or if they are arrested here in the united states, and taken directly to federal court where they would belong and have all the constitutional rights anyone else requested. pedia has a long history. remember, prior legal precedents allow for and still allows for arguably the commander in chief to detain an american citizen and hold them without charge for a period of time and declare them to be...
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let's say there are no connections to al-qaeda or any other group. i'm concerned about home-grown terrorists who can look on the internet and build these bombs and go to the fireworks store. so there is two sides to this story, is there not? >> very tough case. home-grown terrorist is the toughest to find. but he wasn't a home-grown terrorist. he went to russia. made it easy. i agree with you, gretchen. a home-grown terrorist, that's a nightmare of -- chris christie told me this years ago when they did the guys who attacked fort dix. but this was not a home-grown terrorist. this guy went to russia. >> steve: he was inspired by the al-qaeda magazine. what about this? according to the globe, police sources tell them that the carjack victim heard the guys, the brothers say, we just killed a cop. we blew up the marathon, and now we're going to new york. don't blank with us. have you ever heard anything about those guys potentially coming in a second wave to new york? >> other than that, no. i have no information that they were hardihead to do. >> no we d
let's say there are no connections to al-qaeda or any other group. i'm concerned about home-grown terrorists who can look on the internet and build these bombs and go to the fireworks store. so there is two sides to this story, is there not? >> very tough case. home-grown terrorist is the toughest to find. but he wasn't a home-grown terrorist. he went to russia. made it easy. i agree with you, gretchen. a home-grown terrorist, that's a nightmare of -- chris christie told me this years ago...
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qaeda and they still have difficult jobs. >> it seems to be al qaeda in iraq is on the rise in the political process is frozen. when it comes to afghanistan, it's a frustrating country and i think you really resolve issues in a good way for us. my question as it is now the time to be engaged in sequestration? >> senator, i wish we were. i am right with you on this. as i've been constantly reminded, it is the law of the land. we have a responsibility to do with that thought reality. >> i think we have the ability to replace it. i do want to destroy the military in the process. between now and the end of this year we've got to deal with syria in more detail. we've got to do with how we end the war in afghanistan. general dempsey, what would winning the clinic in afghanistan? >> let me thank you personally for your help on the detention issue. >> you also make good resolution. what with losing look like in afghanistan? >> the inability to control urban areas as well with the a loss if we didn't have a lot term relationship with it. >> s. morale effect date by insurgent in the budget process? >>
qaeda and they still have difficult jobs. >> it seems to be al qaeda in iraq is on the rise in the political process is frozen. when it comes to afghanistan, it's a frustrating country and i think you really resolve issues in a good way for us. my question as it is now the time to be engaged in sequestration? >> senator, i wish we were. i am right with you on this. as i've been constantly reminded, it is the law of the land. we have a responsibility to do with that thought reality....
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they had the ira a long time before al qaeda arrives. we need to do that too. we're not going to change our basic character. we're going to try to remain true, to essentially being the way we've always been. and i think that is a challenge, though, now. you feel the havoc growing across the global news cycles. and you say, look, for someone doing something leak this, you're trying to get in the mind of a bomber, maybe this is a victory. there's fear all over the unit. there's a question of where next? i think the next 24 to 48 hours will be important in terms of leadership, people in the law enforcement community as well as the political actors. let's take a deep breath. >> in terms of how we have evolved as a country, in terms of the way our leaders talk to us as the public, but when we are given instruction, reassurance and given response from our leaders, both in law enforcement, politically, is there a new consensus that it ought to be about resilience and it ought not be about revenge or some kind of acute response. has that changed? >> i think it has. the
they had the ira a long time before al qaeda arrives. we need to do that too. we're not going to change our basic character. we're going to try to remain true, to essentially being the way we've always been. and i think that is a challenge, though, now. you feel the havoc growing across the global news cycles. and you say, look, for someone doing something leak this, you're trying to get in the mind of a bomber, maybe this is a victory. there's fear all over the unit. there's a question of...